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Boots on the Ground – A Practitioner’s Guide to Conducting Public Safety Investigations

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External Investigators |  Internal Investigators |  POBR/FOBR |  Public Sector
Karen Kramer |  Eli Makus
1 Hour
Audio and Video
Original Program Date:
Feb 25, 2021
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In August 2020, AWI presented a webinar largely focused on the legal framework for conducting administrative investigations involving public safety professionals. This companion webinar will drill down and provide practical guidance for investigators on the nuances unique to investigations involving law enforcement. Given the increased emphasis on transparency of investigations involving peace officers, these sensitive investigations include an added layer of scrutiny from all parties and stakeholders. While the focus of the webinar will be on the California Public Safety Officers Procedural Bill of Rights (“POBR”), the concepts and tools discussed are applicable to investigations in most jurisdictions with similar legislation. Many of these concepts also apply to investigations involving Firefighters.

Disclaimer: The contents of this webinar and the positions taken are those of the presenter only, may be time sensitive, and are not warranted, endorsed or otherwise recommended by AWI and are not intended to provide legal advice. 



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Karen Kramer's Profile

Karen Kramer

Kramer Workplace Investigations

Karen Kramer, AWI-CH is an employment law attorney specializing in workplace investigations. Since forming Kramer-Wiese (now Kramer Workplace Investigations) in 2000, Karen’s practice focuses primarily on conducting personnel investigations involving allegations of discrimination, harassment and retaliation, as well as misconduct and disciplinary matters. Karen has conducted over 1000 workplace investigations for public agencies, and is well versed in the Public Safety Officers Procedural Bill of Rights and the Firefighters Procedural Bill of Rights. Many of these investigations involved complex and high-profile issues involving high level public employees and elected officials. Additionally, Karen has been deposed on approximately 10 occasions and has testified during administrative proceedings regarding investigations she conducted.? Karen is a graduate of the University of California, Irvine (1989) and University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law (1992). 

Eli Makus's Profile

Eli Makus

Senior Partner

Van Dermyden Makus Law Corporation

Eli Makus, AWI-CH, is the Managing Partner of Van Dermyden Makus Law Corporation. Eli conducts and manages neutral, unbiased investigations on complex and sensitive matters. He is experienced in all areas of employment law, including discrimination, harassment, retaliation, disability accommodations, protected leaves of absence, whistleblower claims, privacy, wage-hour compliance, and reorganizations. His clients include private employers and a variety of public agencies, including state agencies, counties, cities, school districts and special districts throughout California. Eli trains and speaks extensively on conducting workplace investigations. Eli has helped employers implement successful internal investigation programs and trained lawyer and non-lawyer investigators how to conduct thorough, prompt, and impartial workplace investigations.